raining_frogs ([info]raining_frogs) wrote,
@ 2005-12-10 01:32:00
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The Gwen Stefani rant!
Disclaimer! This is a prototype rant and is entirely open to criticism and editing. It will eventually turn up on the new site, but any input or amendments would be appreciated.

Okay, this is the first rant I have posted here; usually my rants are a lot more lighthearted, but I haven't avoided the more unsavoury nature of Ms. Stefani's new image. I have a weird little picture though:

Look at the chiaroscuro on that baby!

Love her, hate her, whatever, I want your opinions on this! If you think I'm wrong about anything, I'd love to hear your take on it. If you want to cite this article to anyone, you're more than welcome. Now, onto the lengthly, image-laden Gwen Stefani rant!!**

Let me start this by admitting a dark secret- I used to love No Doubt. Back in the day I would bounce on my bed shrieking “Just a Girl” into my hairbrush, and up until about the year 2000, No Doubt were one of my favourite pop rock bands. I sort of forgot about them until the release of “Rock Steady” in late 2001. I didn’t buy the album because I didn’t like the sound of the singles, which sounded to me like a clumsy foray into reggae and hip hop influences rather than ska-inspired Californian bubblegum rock. The sound was very eclectic, very hit and miss but it left me feeling ultimately empty. No Doubt’s lyrics were never wonderful, but they had an organic sincerity and a sweet vulnerability that was very endearing. Rock Steady, as well as being named after a character from Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles, was lyrically shallow and sloppy. Songs stopped being about emotions and relationships and started being about being awesome, looking awesome and having an awesome time.

If I thought Rock Steady was overly brassy and vacuous, I was in for a big surprise when Gwen went solo. Insisting No Doubt was still together and this project was something she had to get out of her system, she headed into the studio, working with high profile stars like Pharrell Williams, Linda Perry and Andre 3000 to make sure her outing was as commercially viable as possible. She emerged shortly after in late 2004 with a whole new look and a loosely conceptual “80’s dance album” titled Love, Angel, Music, Baby, L.A.M.B for short and coincidentally the name of her recently launched fashion label, a vainglorious collection of argyle, tweed and bras marketed as shirts. Speaking as someone who makes her own clothes, I have to say I found them really strange, because they’re odd looking yet boring at the same time. They seem to come exclusively in brown, grey and black, a girl would find it very hard to find anything in her wardrobe to pair them with, unless her school blazer was brown tartan or she went foxhunting often. And they also are ridiculously expensive, but I digress.

The conceit (and this is a conceited album!) is Alice in Wonderland, pop culture’s equivalent of a well-chewed dog toy. Alice is classical, colourful, endlessly inventive and marketable as hell. It’s all too easy for someone to cast oneself as Alice, the girl who just has to fall down a rabbit hole or step through a looking glass to emerge in a land of her own creation.

Siouxsie and the Banshees released an album called Through the Looking Glass, the Sisters of Mercy released Alice, and, er, Mcfly released Wonderland. The story has always been strongly linked to rock and pop artists and shows no sign of going away. The reason for it’s enduring popularity is the fascination with one’s imagination and what it can create, surprising even it’s creator. It comes as a surprise then, that Gwen’s album doesn’t show even a hint of that.

Gwen’s casting of Alice goes to herself, despite being 35. Age really shouldn’t be an issue, after all, Cyndi Lauper was 33 when she made her colourful, exuberant, girlish debut. Her carefree attitude made her appear more like an impish 20-something, and the notion that she was a bit old to be a teeny-bopping pop star with orange hair and bangles to her elbows seemed silly and irrelevant. Gwen would be endlessly more charming if she could emote some of that X-factor in her Alice persona; after all, Alice was always polite, but she had a definite spark that makes her an appealing character. Despite being dolled up in an ultra skimpy variation of Alice’s trademark look, a midriff-baring waistcoat, cravat , white tights and stripper shoes, Gwen exudes nothing but smugness. Her Alice is glossy and chilly to the touch, dressed in designer originals, manicured, toned, tanned and tightened, scarlet of lip and peroxide of hair, a shocking example of missing the point of something. And as always, it’s sellable.

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"Making the album with all these people made me think of Alice in Wonderland, because it was kind of the trip I was on. It was as if I was being pointed into one room where I'd try making music with whoever was in there, before being pointed into another room where I'd get to try with someone else. It was magical, like the record was being written before my eyes." she explains. And that’s her entire reason behind the Alice concept, though since she admits that when she has kids she’ll dress up like Alice for them, I suspect this whole thing was just an excuse to wear a bustle and a bow in her hair.

Weirdly for a “concept album“, it’s not very conceptual. Gwen is singing about what’s important and prominent in her life, which seems to be money, fashion, success, and fame. It’s more of a dip into Gwen’s lifestyle, as she would like it to be perceived. I’ll be exploring her singles later on, but since I like to know of which I speak, I have checked out a couple of her album tracks too.

“Bubble-Pop Electric”: A 50’s inspired collaboration with Andre 3000, who is playing Gwen’s boyfriend Johnny Vulture. Gwen plays a virginal teenager (hey, maybe it is a concept album!) who wants to get laid at a drive in movie. Aside from the cringe-inducing spoken introduction, this doesn’t really stand out much. The production is good, there are some nice touches like the sound of popping bubbles making up a backbeat. It’s sort of ruined by Gwen trying to be cute and the car sound effects though.

“Harajuku Girls”: This is Gwen’s big tribute to Japanese street fashion. It sounds very latter-day Madonna, sort of like a clunkier Vogue. There’s not much of a tune to speak of, Gwen just half warbles the lyrics, which manage to be shallow, patronising and poorly written in one fell swoop:

“I'm fascinated by the Japanese fashion scene/ Just an American girl in the Tokyo streets/ My boyfriend bought me a Hysteric Glamour shirt/ They’re hard to find in the States, got me feeling couture.
What’s that you got on?/ Is it Comme Des Garcons?/ A Vivienne Westwood can’t go wrong/ Mixed up with second-hand clothes (Let's not forget about John Galliano, no)/ Flip the landscape when Nigo made A Bathing Ape/ I’ve got expensive taste (oh well)/ I Guess I’d better save up (cho takai)”

I might just be a white girl observing Japanese culture, just like Gwen is, but I haven’t seen too many girls in FRUiTS who walk around in John Galliano. Most “Harajuku girls” are just regular girls who attend school or have a job, the majority of them live with their family. They’re not affluent fashionistas who hurl money at every high end designer, they go for cheaper stuff like Milk or Baby the Stars Shine Bright and save up for several designer pieces like everyone else. Often they hand-make their own accessories or customise hand-me-downs. The point of Japanese street fashion is that it’s a personal style that can’t be emulated entirely by one designer. That’s why it’s so sad to see Gwen attempt it with her “Harajuku Lovers” line, a poor take off on Super Lovers and the Japanese street fashion leg of L.A.M.B. Needless to say, a simple hoodie from this line will set you back $96, and it comes with Gwen’s name spray painted garishly on the front.

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As well as including a tribute to Japanese girls on the above track, Gwen’s Wonderland comes packaged with four of them. Named Love, Angel, Music and Baby, Gwen croons “I am your biggest fan,” to them and incorporates them into her videos as an ever-present entourage. In the promo for “What You Waiting For?” Gwen is seen drowning (a symbol, she explains, for drowning in the creativity of others) until two Harajuku girls sail over on upturned umbrellas and save her.

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Gwen casts them in the role of her muses for the new album, but the way this is realised has been seen as decidedly unsettling by many. Gwen is never short of praise for Tokyo’s edgy teens, explaining in an interview:

“Everyone had this crazy personal style. The last couple of times I was there, it had evolved into all these different things like the Gothic Lolitas and girls with blonde hair and dark tans and high heels, like they were from Hollywood.”

The style is skewed somewhat for the “Harajuku Girls” look. For example, no fashion conscious girl in Harajuku would be caught dead in her school uniform, yet this look is the staple for most of the costumes, consisting of a school blazer or blouse and pleated skirt, albeit with a brightly coloured petticoat and lacy rumba panties underneath. The schoolgirl look is subverted further by neon knee socks, brightly coloured training shoes and gaudy hair accessories and headdresses. The Harajuku Girls almost invariably have Geisha-inspired makeup when in this garb. A huge inaccuracy setting this look apart from genuine street fashion is no girl has her own style. Colour scheme variations aside, the girls match at all times, and coordinate their look to compliment Gwen’s which is always a more elaborate, showier look. Disturbingly, they change their style completely to suit whatever Gwen is doing at the time- for example, during the “Hollaback Girl” video, all Japanese influence in their dress code is removed, and they are transformed into mongoloid booty shakin’ hip hop girls in Adidas tracksuits.

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All this would suggest that Gwen is misunderstanding the ethos of this subculture, or at least hijacking it for her own ends. For all her compliments about the fashion and the girls who exhibit it don’t seem as sincere when her second single, “Rich Girl” contains lyrics like:

“I'd get me four Harajuku girls to (uh huh)/ Inspire me and they'd come to my rescue/ I'd dress them wicked, I'd give them names (yeah) ‘Love, Angel, Music, Baby/ Hurry up and come and save me”
You’d think that if Gwen was so taken with the way these girls dress, she would have no need to “dress them wicked”. As for giving them names, isn’t that what you do to pets as opposed to people? Instead of acting like someone who is impressed and inspired by Japanese street fashion, Gwen behaves more like she has discovered something nobody in the West has seen before, and now she’s bringing back four specimens to hawk to the slack jawed public. It’s King Kong with smaller, less hairy, prettier conversation pieces. Her fashion line is a blatant cash-in on the marketing of the girls, but Gwen is always the main attraction. By positioning herself centre stage, she takes quite a large chunk of the design credit for herself, even though she’s quite belatedly jumping on the bandwagon of Japan’s popularity. One only needs to glance at eBay to know what a cash cow Japanese inspired clothes are.

The role the Harajuku Girls play in Gwen’s world are no different from the roles a Chihuahua or a Louis Vuitton bag usually play in the world of celebrity; they are a strange mix of accessories and pets. Gwen says that they are figments of her own imagination, again taking credit for creating something that was thriving long before she latched onto it:

“They’re kind of here, they’re kind of not, they’re kind of in my head. I thought about them and they appeared one day.” They follow her to interviews and sit with her with stony expressions on their faces. If someone asks her a question that she has to ponder, they raise their index fingers to their temples, tilt their heads and mime thinking. On command, they giggle behind their fingers in a stereotypical way.

They always remain silent. When Gwen Stefani appeared on Jonathan Ross’ BBC 1 show, the Harajuku Girls were filmed in the green room sitting next to comedian Peter Kay, who was trying to make them laugh, engage them in conversation and offer them Flumps. When one of them struggled to keep a straight face, Gwen got rather alarmed and exclaimed to Jonathan “He was not in my imagination! He was my nightmare.” When in Gwen’s presence, the Harajuku Girls’ slightest movements are rehearsed and choreographed; spontaneity and emotion is something Gwen definitely does not encourage them to exhibit. Compare this to the exuberant, vibrant girls that fill FRUiTS’ pages- they are not silent, subservient geishas or programmable automatons; they’re just real girls having fun with their appearance. It’s very hard to picture girls like these nestling puppy-like around a throne Stefani lounges in, or flocking to her in awe while she towers, god-like above them in her platform heels.

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The Harajuku Girls even bow to Gwen. And this is her way of showing she admires them?

As a highly visual artist, a lot is to be learned from her music videos, especially the first two, which were lavish and high-budget. The debut, “What You Waiting For?” is the best song on the album by a long shot, and the video is pretty impressive eye candy as well, with numerous costume changes and high production values. It documents Gwen, creatively blocked in a recording studio, falling asleep, entering Wonderland and pursuing a Japanese girl dressed as the White Rabbit in her new Alice persona.

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Along the way she meets a variety of Wonderland and Looking Glass characters, all versions of herself. There’s Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum, the Duchess and her pig-baby, who looks identical to the Tweedle twins, the Red Queen and the talking flowers.

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Just like in the book, Gwen grows to an enormous size and creates a huge deluge with her tears, then shrinks down and almost drowns in them. I can’t help thinking it would be a lot more dramatic is she wasn’t clearly in the shallow end of a swimming pool. Celebrities, eh?

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The Red Queen, according to Gwen, represents her ego. The Gwen-Queen pushes the Gwen-Alice into a void, where she plummets down to chase the maniacally giggling White Rabbit through a maze, crashing a mad tea party on the way. She wins no friends by jumping up and down on the table and whooping obnoxiously at the guests.

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At the end of the video Gwen wakes up from the dream with the song written and her imaginary friends sitting silently in the studio. She treats them to a blast of the new track and they treat her to the most forced, submissive giggle ever. And the legend is born!

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“Rich Girl” explores the Harajuku Girls’ imaginations around the age of seven or eight. It turns out that Gwen is their hero, and they love nothing better than to play with hideous, beestung lipped Bratz dolls (product placement!Gwen) of her and Eve, an artist who seems only to exist in other’s collaborations. Gwen was largely unknown in Japan before she started a publicity campaign, so the idea of Gwen and Eve being a bunch of little girls’ heroes over there is highly unlikely. It’s just another way of making Gwen appear connected to Japan, which she blatantly isn’t.

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The video takes place on a pirate ship inside the girls’ imaginations, complete with a crew compiled of gymnasts and hiphop dancers who turn cartwheels and backflips in the background as if they were auditioning for CATS. Naturally, Gwen is the captain of this salty crew, Eve appears to be the first mate or bosun, and the Harajuku Girls are underwear-clad wenches.

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The song is a take-off of the Fiddler on the Roof song “Rich Man” with the lyrics altered accordingly to fit Gwen’s lifestyle. Even if he did exist only in a musical, Tevye was a Russian peasant who dreams of getting poultry to fill his yard with. Gwen is already an extremely wealthy pop star who has married another wealthy pop star and isn’t shy of flashing her cash. She sings about acquiring all the hallmarks of celebrity wealth, but the thing is, she can and has bought much of the things she mentions:

“Think what that money could bring/ I'd buy everything/ Clean out Vivienne Westwood/ In my Galliano gown/ No, wouldn't just have one hood/ A Hollywood mansion if I could/ Please book me first-class to my fancy house in London town.”

Someone who already is incredibly wealthy pretending to be dreaming of things supposedly out of her reach for the benefit of the great unwashed masses really leaves a bad taste in my mouth. The paper thin phoniness is only enhanced by Eve’s lacklustre rap, which also contains a plug for the fashion label:

“See Gwen Stefani and her L.A.M.B/ I rock the fetish people, you know who I am.”

The only thing that stops the song and video from being one big L.A.M.B advert is the horrible “I’d get me four Harajuku Girls” part- considering this is part of all the things Gwen would do if she was a rich girl, this implies that she would like to buy them! I wonder if she has a bunch of black girls to pick cotton for her too?

“Hollaback Girl”, the third single, samples off Queen’s “Another One Bites the Dust” and is Gwen’s “attitude song”. It’s a strange, strange song, and not very good with it. It’s laced throughout with a sample of Gwen going “This is my shit” and suffers from amiright.com related tragedies when the “shit” is censored out, because when it was played 24/7 by the DJ in the store I used to work, me and a few other people thought she was saying “kiss my shit”. Anyway, I’m digressing. The video is set in a high school, and Gwen, being 35, has the advantage of being female here, because a 35 year old male star going to a high school to hang with the kids for a music video has shades of Gary Glitter about it.

The video opens with Gwen taking a picture of the Harajuku Girls with her limited edition Harajuku Lovers digital camera, a gaudy HP Photosmart that’s a fairly unremarkable point-n’-snap, only has 4 mega pixels. You pay $60 extra to own the model with the Harajuku Lovers design. The Girl’s are all gangstered out for the video, with cornrows, tracksuits and teased hair. Gwen comments that they look “Super kuhwaheeh!” with her fantastic Japanese pronunciation skills. Then they go off with a bunch of school kids for a wacky adventure in the supermarket.

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The rest of the video is held at a school pep rally inside a giant black space. Gwen is the head cheerleader, and …band… baton… pep person. Well, I’m not American, I have an excuse for not knowing what she’s meant to be.

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Anyway, there is nothing else to this video, just some professional cheerleading and some dance moves, with Gwen gesticulating amongst it all. Then the video ends.

“Cool” is the only single that deals with a relationship; it’s about Gwen and her ex from some years ago learning to adjust, remain friends and deal with new relationships their old flame may now have. The video is very prettily filmed, I have to say, and has a very early 50’s feel. It’s a mixture of Gwen playing the gracious, classy, charitable person, accepting her ex and his fiancée into her giant mansion, and scenes from Gwen and Ex-Boyfriend’s relationship back in the day. Lots of makeup is applied to Gwen to make it look like she’s not wearing any. She also has her 50th stab at being Marilyn Monroe.

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“Luxurious” is the last single from the album, and it would seem that Gwen has dropped her Japan fixation like a bad habit and is now all about being Latino. The Harajuku Girls are still in this one, but their appearance is completely American/Latino. A pretty blah video, all about material wealth, how much she has and all that Black Eyed Peas stuff. Gwen compares being rich to being in love, goes to a nail bar, hangs with her homies and wears the most obvious, unconvincing wig you’ll ever pay $700 for. And she also gets dressed up like Carmen Miranda and bursts piñatas without a blindfold. That’s cheating, Gwen!

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For me, I’ll always look on Gwen as an ordinary girl who lost her way, someone who became obsessed with image over substance. Celebrities have a lot more opportunities available to them than they used to, but it doesn’t mean that it’s always a wise idea to take advantage of them. You know you’ve lost your edge when you’re a rock star who has dedicated their entire album to the promotion of a rather uninspired and inaccessible fashion line and are so desperate to latch onto the success that a certain subculture is having that you twist it to suit your own ends. And even if you are white and ethnically uninspired, it doesn’t help you find yourself to plunder the culture of other countries and ethnicities. Sadly, Gwen has spent much of her musical career trying on new guises, outfits and attitudes; Jamaican, Hindu, African American, and yet it still doesn’t make her a genre leaping culture ambassador, or even someone delighted by the world’s diversity, eager to learn more. It’s just an admission of how bored she is with her own identity.

As for the Harajuku Girls, despite how popular Japan is now in Western media, Asian people are still largely invisible. Don’t seize on Gwen’s use of the Japanese as an example of how they are gaining visibility, because it’s not the kind of recognition anyone would want. When the Japanese are shown as something more than mute, fashion obsessed, frivolous toys, then things will be improving. Until then, if you want to learn more about the Japanese, listen to their bands, watch their TV shows and movies, check out their own fashion labels and the real girls of Harajuku and let them speak for themselves. Don’t let Gwen try and sell you her knock-offs.



**I actually have some proper art for this that I have not scanned. I'm rubbish. It will appear in the next update for sure!




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[info]glitter_my_glam
2005-12-10 08:50 am UTC (link)
Wow. That was the most well written rant I've ever read. You've perfectly summed up how I feel about that woman. Especially the Harajuku girls. My thoughts have always been, "Wait...she owns them? Are Asian people okay with this?"

Man... a little success, and suddenly slavery is okay.

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[info]clairefaerie
2005-12-11 03:10 pm UTC (link)
Wow, really? Thanks a lot! :D

I'm not sure how she gets away with the Asian girl thing. If it were black girls or Hispanic girls behaving so stereotypically she'd be branded a huge racist.

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[info]xx__incorporeal
2005-12-10 09:12 am UTC (link)
Wow, I really dug this. I used to love Gwen so much, but now, eesh.

I recommend you check this out. :)
http://myspace.com/cobrastarship

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[info]crystalxshadows
2005-12-10 01:01 pm UTC (link)
Hahaha! I'm so adding them!

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[info]xprivate_eyex
2005-12-10 12:45 pm UTC (link)
you were right on the money so many times. I use to like No Doubt a lot, I use to think Gwen was a talented singer and *gasp* an actually cool, down to Earth role-model for girls like me who were never, like, run of the mill. Not that I was ever looking for a role model, it was just nice to know one existed. But it seemed as the years went on, the fame grew, and the money and fashion became the biggest part of her life...Gwen, well, went kind of crazy. She's been dealing with exercise obsession and eating disorders for a few years now so I learned recently. A while back, with the introduction of the "Harajuku girls" I was absolutely REVOLTED to learn that the four girls, whose real names are unknown since Gwen as renamed them, are not allowed to ever speak English in Gwen's presence or they will be fired.

I'm part Japanese, my grandmother is from Japan, and I have always held such a reverant, special place for my Japanese heritage. Even if I wasn't Japanese, I'd probably be one of those people who adore the culture. But when I saw Gwen fucking Stefani buying into the latest American trend of being all "OMG KAWAII!!!1" over all things Japanese...oh...oh how I wished for her blood on my hands.

But instead of being angry, I did that which is the true sign of my despisal - I stopped giving a damn. I decided to disregard a woman I once admired as a singer as being just another piece of soulless Hollywood trash. She's clinging sadly and desperately to youth through superficial things. Sure people are buying it now, but ask about this "movement" of hers in a few years and people will go, "what?"

Basically, I feel the woman has gone mad. I sincerely do. I think she's probably feeling quite empty in her life right now. Her marriage is, supposedly, quite crappy. She never got to have children, which I remember was something that was very important to her when she was younger. Lastly, she seems to not like herself very much, and hide behind a grand facade.

The fall will be sad when she finally burns out.

gosh I went on my own little rant there didn't I. o_O

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[info]xprivate_eyex
2005-12-10 12:53 pm UTC (link)
p.s. I met/saw some real Harajuku girls when I was in Tokyo in June. Many of them are just normal girls who are into funky fashion. Others have a whole attitude of being hardass, spicy girls - the contrary persona to what women in Japan have been taught to be for, well, forever. It's just like punk rock in America back in the 80s (not recently - back then). Some people who were into punk rock were into the politics, the hardassing, the living on the streets. Others just dug punk music and punk fashion, no real reason - they just did.

I hate perpetuated stereotypes. Even though I don't think the Japanese even really notice Gwen Stefani, I'm sure they'd just roll their eyes or shrug in confusion at all this Japan-centric crap she's been doing lately.

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[info]fiddle_faddle
2005-12-10 05:02 pm UTC (link)
Wow, i totally love you :P
A wonderfully written piece.
I personally find it unbelievably creepy how she has to fit the words 'harajuku girls' into every single song! Uhhh...
Poor Peter kay probably just wanted to feed the poor mute girls up on flumps :(
I can't believe she has the audacity to claim that they 'came from her imagination', that's even worse than her weird lyrics that suggest she owns them, it's saying that theyre not even real people, just parts of Gwen's amazing ind. O_O
uhh i want to say more because i just hate her so damn much, but the words will not come!

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[info]clairefaerie
2005-12-12 11:59 am UTC (link)
Yay, thank you! I love your icon too. You have an icon for every occassion! ^_^

I got so sick of typing "Harajuku Girls" over and over again, so I too am cursing Gwen for putting the term in wherever she can. I must have gone into the hundreds there!

I would really like it if he had made that girl burst out laughing and start talking to him. Imagine the look on Gwen's face! I would find it so funny if he decided he was the missing 5th Harajuku Girl too and tagged along everywhere they went.

Hey, if Gwen can imagine up four girls out of thin air, maybe we can imagine a few more to go and beat her up? :D

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[info]medusakss
2005-12-11 03:01 am UTC (link)
i love her no matter what...i thought this was very cool..and i understand the whole latina thing..and i thought it was weird too..but gwen is being gwen..and just being herself and probably is having a hard time finding who she is...a lot of people i know are asking the same question or feel the same as you do...but...no worries i am still a fan of yours...i did see her in concert and she stills has that no doubt image...no matter how femmy she dresses...i could tell she wanted to run all over that damn stage..lol..but you can only do so much in heels..lol which is why i think cyndi takes her shoes off a lot.

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[info]clairefaerie
2005-12-12 12:05 pm UTC (link)
Thanks for your understanding. :D I can't say I really like Gwen anymore, but at the same time I didn't want to write something that completely insults her, so I'm happy you knew what I was trying to say. I've got to hand it to her though, she still manages a lot of movement on stage even in those ginormous stripper shoes! I would be scared to take the tiniest step, I think!

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[info]prodigalone
2005-12-11 04:15 pm UTC (link)
I think your rant is well thought-out and clever. I certainly agree with you. I also liked No Doubt. I thought Gwen was talented, but I've been disappointed with her foray into solo album-land.

I'm particularly interested in the last paragraph:
"As for the Harajuku Girls, despite how popular Japan is now in Western media, Asian people are still largely invisible. Don’t seize on Gwen’s use of the Japanese as an example of how they are gaining visibility, because it’s not the kind of recognition anyone would want. When the Japanese are shown as something more than mute, fashion obsessed, frivolous toys, then things will be improving. Until then, if you want to learn more about the Japanese, listen to their bands, watch their TV shows and movies, check out their own fashion labels and the real girls of Harajuku and let them speak for themselves. Don’t let Gwen try and sell you her knock-offs."
It would be interesting to see this fleshed out more (I suppose it could even be a separate article) because it really is an excellent point. I would even ask if you think Gwen's Harajuku Girls perpetuate the stereotype of Asian women as meek and submissive and whether she is actually doing a disservice to (or hurting) Japanese culture and Asian people by presenting them solely as "mute, fashion obsessed, frivolous toys"?

By the way, I give you bonus Geek Points for remembering Rock Steady from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! I'm used to being the only person who remembers stuff like this. :)

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[info]clairefaerie
2005-12-12 12:16 pm UTC (link)
Thanks very much! I see what you're saying, I said too much in the last paragraph without elaborating and saying why I thought that. I'll edit it when I figure out how I'm going to articulate how I feel about it. ;) I definitely think that her actions have an impact on how the Japanese are seen by lots of people, because a lot of people think the concept is cool and it's okay to use people as props. I even read one girl's post saying how cool it would be to have a "cute little Harajuku Girl" follow her around. That's just creepy. :P It's definitely not healthy in a society where there are so few Asian celebrities or people in the media to counterbalance it.

Yay geek points! :D I used to love Bebop and Rocksteady, that was one of my favourite shows when I was little. I still sometimes say "I HAAATE ANCHOVIES!", even though nobody know what I'm talking about. ^^

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[info]fuck_yours
2005-12-12 07:36 am UTC (link)
Excellent rant! I love it! Adding this to memories! Please put this rant in my community culture_exploit. I would love for people to see it. You are extremely intelligent and well-spoken.

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[info]clairefaerie
2005-12-12 12:18 pm UTC (link)
Wow, thank you! :D I love the idea of your community and I'll definitely post my article there soon. As an Irish person, I know all about my culture getting unwelcomely hijacked. I'll spread the word for you if you like.

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? - (Anonymous), 2008-02-28 04:56 pm UTC
wow...
[info]spundone
2005-12-12 05:43 pm UTC (link)
I'm really glad you posted this. Every time I point out to my friends that she is treating these "Harajuku Girls" cruelly and in a sense almost like a racist they just say I'm being paranoid (which I have been known to be and they reference to the time I thought my grandmother's lawn gnomes were possessed and trying to kill me).

Honestly, I used to be a very big fan of No Doubt but because Gwen Stefani has completely lost her mind I'd sooner admit that I'm a die-hard fan of Abba to my hateful school than I would admit that I considered Gwen Stefani to be sort of a role model. It's sad really...

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Re: wow...
[info]clairefaerie
2005-12-13 01:39 pm UTC (link)
Thanks very much. :)

I can't beleive how some people don't see what's wrong with what she's doing. It's definitely not paranoid thinking that she's belittling them when she doesn't let them speak and makes them kneel at her feet. I'd like someone to explain to me how that's her showing how great she thinks they are. ;) I don't like Insane Gwen at all, I want Quirky Gwen back.

By the way, I love your icon. Alex Kapranos is hot sex, and has been getting even hotter with each video he makes!

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Re: wow... - [info]spundone, 2005-12-13 05:47 pm UTC
Re: wow... - [info]clairefaerie, 2005-12-14 01:18 pm UTC
what?? - (Anonymous), 2008-02-28 04:58 pm UTC
Thank you!
[info]gtonizuka
2005-12-16 11:19 am UTC (link)
I think you epitomized my take on the whole issue, and I'd love to compliment you on a well written rant. As being one of the people known for making statments like this among friends(and enemies who'd rather endorse this sort of shite as "comedy", "tongue-in-cheek", or whatever the flavor of the week is to avoid dealing with race and prejudice in America), I feel a strong empathy; frankly, I wouldn't have had the same opinion if the girls had been free to express themselves. This is a travesty, and I agree with the statement-if the girls had been black or hispanic, hell would have broken loose.

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Re: Thank you!
[info]clairefaerie
2005-12-17 03:13 am UTC (link)
Thanks very much! It's always great to write your opinion down and find you're not the only one to feel that way. I've been told to sit down and shut up about the Harajuku Girls by some people, and it's clear that all of them didn't like hearing what I had to say because it spoiled their enjoyment of the Gwen Stefani package as a whole, and made them have to think up far fetched reasons why it's okay to use your backup dancers like that. I think the only reason she got away with it is that they're Japanese and lots of people in the West love the thought of quiet, submissive little Asian girls. America and Britian in particular have a serious fetish about Japan being full of them. Or maybe Gwen thinks that because a lot of Japanese girls love Americana and Victorian clothes, they would worship her and look up to her because of her whiteness.

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[info]wicked_queen
2005-12-18 09:59 am UTC (link)
Will you marry me?

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[info]clairefaerie
2005-12-18 10:23 am UTC (link)
Yes!

We shall be married in the spring. A thousand hurrahs!

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[info]heart_of_butter
2005-12-18 03:12 pm UTC (link)
<3 Added to memories.

Really, I couldn't have said it better myself. Stefani is an absolute fool, there's no getting around it. I'd gladly kick her ass if I had the chance, means, and the ability to get away with it.

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[info]clairefaerie
2005-12-18 03:17 pm UTC (link)
Cool! I'm glad you agree. And now I'm fantasising about how easy it would be to kick Stefani's ass. All you'd have to do would be to give her a slight shove and she'd go head over heels on those huge stripper shoes of hers.

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[info]clairefaerie
2005-12-19 02:40 am UTC (link)
Thanks very much! And cheers for the Rocksteady definition, I didn't know about that. :) I'm really glad that you liked the Evanescence rant as well!

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Word!
[info]jazzypom
2005-12-24 12:27 pm UTC (link)
I wonder if she has a bunch of black girls to pick cotton for her too?

This is very well written. Gwen was on my shit list with the whole Bounty Killah 'Hey Baby' compliation (I'm jamaican, see?) and the whole cultural appropriation really ticks me off in ways I can't describe.

It's like, Gwen represents some people I know who take on different cultural dress because its 'cool' and not necessarily because of appreciation. It's like this white guy looking at me and saying, 'you know, I wish I had an afro. Still be white, but with an afro.'

But yeah, word!

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Re: Word!
[info]clairefaerie
2005-12-26 08:32 am UTC (link)
Thank you very much!

I wish she'd actually learn a little something about the world, then she wouldn't be leaping over everyone's culture like a deranged little child in the dress-up box. She's living in England part time and still thinks it's all about going hunting and afternoon tea. It's definitely all about fashion for her. I think that's where her interest in all the world begins and ends.

Thanks again, I'm glad you liked it. ^_^

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[info]ice_goddess
2005-12-24 06:36 pm UTC (link)
i love this post, i went to Harajuku in May and asked people if they knew Gwen and none of the Harajuku girls even know who she is.

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[info]clairefaerie
2005-12-26 08:34 am UTC (link)
Hahaha, yay! That's hilarious that she has those girls there to admire her and boost her ego when nobody in Japan would even know her face! Take that, Gwen!

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[info]a_grumble_cake
2005-12-30 03:43 am UTC (link)
damn you're good. Very well written!
It's frustrating that we only read about this is online. The traditional media is ignoring the subject even though a lot of people are pissed off.

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[info]clairefaerie
2006-01-01 10:16 am UTC (link)
Thank you! I'm glad you liked it.

Yeah, all of the people who have spoken out about it are online, I haven't read a single magazine article about it, which is really sad. I think the reason for that is that writers who don't get paid write uncensored opinions, and I can bet that a few magazines have a lot to gain from Stefani's support.

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[info]quitelife00
2006-01-14 08:57 pm UTC (link)
This was a magnificently written piece that is definately one for the memories. You absolutely read my mind on everything about Gwen's Harajuku "pets."

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[info]clairefaerie
2006-01-16 02:13 pm UTC (link)
Thanks very much! ^_^ I'm really happy that you enjoyed it,

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*adore*
[info]suburbanbyitch
2006-01-15 05:58 pm UTC (link)
extremely well-written. i agree with quitelife00, you should try and get this published. or, better yet, try and post it on one of her fan sites (im sure she has one)...*wicked grin* . i think the reason america's always obsessed with some other country is because our culture sucks.

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Re: *adore*
[info]clairefaerie
2006-01-16 02:22 pm UTC (link)
Thanks very much! I hope someday Gwen reads one of the articles online about why what she's going is wrong and soul-less, it might help bring her down to earth a bit and try to find herself.

One thing I kind of envy about Americans is that they have a much better idea of where their families originated from than Europeans do. Past my great-grandparents I don't know who the hell my family was. ;) I think if Gwen is looking for herself, she should look to where her family is from and try to express it with a bit of honesty instead of all this Asian and Mexian nonsense.

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[info]blondeandbeyond
2006-01-17 12:26 pm UTC (link)
I am a huge Gwen and No Doubt fan. And I understand some peoples anger about Harajuku girls because well race is a VERY touchy subject. Having a boyfriend that is part Japanese and all I adore the Japanese culture.

However you must understand that the girls known as Love Angel Music and Baby aka The Harajuku girls have not been forced into being silent, pretty little dolls that bow to Gwen.
I am sure they all signed a contract to act, and the key word here is ACT, like quiet little China dolls. What do people think? That Gwen and her record label went to Japan, put a gun to these girls heads and made them be Harajuku slaves?

Um, no. If that was the case I am sure the police would be doing something about it if not the girls families.

My point is, they are just actresses and dancers. They play a role and behind the scenes when the cameras arent rolling, they are like any other actress not being filmed: They arent in charcter anymore they are normal girls.
That speak, (English I bet) and talk and interact like Gwen or any other human beings do. Do you actually believe they can only speak Japanese or that they cant speak at all?
Its all part of a show and an act that again, I'm sure the girls agreed to when they SIGNED a contract to act like this. And I'm sure they are getting paid millions to do it.

Thinking they are "forced" to act a certain way when no one can force you to do anything in this world is stupid. There are human rights. And I am sure that if the girls hated their jobs with Gwen so muchthey would QUIT.
Or they wouldnt have signed to to be her Harajuku girls.

-Sabrina

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[info]clairefaerie
2006-01-19 10:16 am UTC (link)
You raise some good points but I think you miss the point about why me and a few other people are uncomfortable with her usage of Japanese girls.

Of course those four girls did it voluntarily! Nobody here suggested they were being forced to do anything against their will; they signed their contracts and agreed to all the terms and conditions- no problems there. I also have no doubts that they are ordinary girls just acting, I did mention this in the article and the comments threads more than once. You should try reading more carefully before you run with that one. (If you want to know, one Harajuku Girl is Japanese American, the rest are Japanese.)

What I did say is that Gwen presents an IMAGE of them as her property/slaves and even though that isn't the case and we all know that isn't the case, it presents a backwards and bigoted view of Japanese girls that isn't accurate or flattering. I would like you to justify their bowing down to her for me. What exactly is right about that, even if they are being paid well to do it?

Remember, it's not the actual four girls who are really being damaged by all this, it's the real Japanese girls. They're being made to look like subservient idiots by their four representatives and Gwen herself.

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gwen - (Anonymous), 2007-04-16 03:36 pm UTC
yeah ok
(Anonymous)
2006-01-18 04:06 pm UTC (link)
you have no idea what you are talking about. they arent Gwen's slaves you phyco. Oh and btw i know people who live in Japan and they are ok with this, they actually like so get over yourself.

you suck

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Re: yeah ok
[info]clairefaerie
2006-01-19 10:15 am UTC (link)
See, here another one who thinks we actually think they’re slaves. LEARN. TO. READ. And you know what, I highly doubt you do know anyone in Japan. If you do, that’s fine, but you just don’t seem very credible. Maybe it’s all that childish name calling.

Also, I think you should look "wapanese" up.

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(Anonymous)
2006-01-18 04:09 pm UTC (link)
oh and btw (add on from last comment) the people i know in japan know who Gwen is so i dont know what the hell that other physco chick is talking about

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[info]clairefaerie
2006-01-19 10:15 am UTC (link)
Are you kidding? She’s practically invisible over there! Not that she hasn’t tried hard to break the Japanese market. Sorry, when you stop making such ignorant and stupid posts instead of “I KNOW JAPANESE PEOPLE, WAAAAH” I will talk to you properly.

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Well done
(Anonymous)
2006-01-18 04:29 pm UTC (link)
This is a well well done rant, I also love No Doubt and was very disapointed with Gwens solo carrer.

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Re: Well done
[info]clairefaerie
2006-01-19 10:14 am UTC (link)
Thanks, I’m glad you liked it. :)

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the girls
(Anonymous)
2006-01-18 04:37 pm UTC (link)
ND and gWen fan here. i have meet the Harajuku Girls and they act normal and are really cool. At first they didnt talk because they where suppose to be imaginary beings from gwens mind (crazy, i know). But now they are able to act like normal people. Check out the JImmy Kimmel interview, the girls act normal they are able to talk and they do what ever they want to get attention.

Plus Gwen herself has called this album a "stupid dance album". If she doesnt take her album seriously, why should we? She said it was about trying new things and playing characters. So its not really her, wait until the return of ND and if she still the same way than go ahead and talk shit.

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Re: the girls
[info]clairefaerie
2006-01-19 10:14 am UTC (link)
Well, I’m glad they’re able to talk now, but it still doesn’t make all that crazy stuff that was happening earlier on any more okay.

An album, serious or not, represents and defines an artist at the time of making it. That’s why so many No Doubt fans are put off by it- their image of Gwen has shifted into something they don’t like. It’s very hard to think of Gwen as the same cute, down to earth girl she used to be when she’s singing about being money hungry and her fashion label. If that’s not your opinion, that’s fine, but not all of us have to share it.

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Re: the girls - (Anonymous), 2006-01-19 04:53 pm UTC

[info]ndimh
2006-01-18 05:45 pm UTC (link)
i was a huge no doubt fan and i was very weary of gwen going solo, but i think it was a wise decision on her behalf. she got to do something that she couldn't do with no doubt and it was a lot of fun for her. she is one of the smartest women in the music industry right now, and i've heard this from many people (even those that don't really like her), that she is in line for a madonna-esque career. yes she does live a lavish life and can seem money hungry at times, but she is still "just a girl." (sorry, had to use that). she is amazingly talented and sorry to say (to you at least) she will be around for a long time. if you don't like her, just ignore her, even though she's kinda everywhere.

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(Anonymous)
2006-01-19 07:43 am UTC (link)
Hey it's only a job, a contract! It would not make sense having them talking in the interviews too... They represent only Gwen's imagination... Jeez it's hard to understand???

The article is dumb in many points! I don't agree with this! People are free to express their views of course! But I'm also free to express myself and i say that L.A.M.B. is an excellent album and it's all about good fun and dance!

And I bet you had your guilty feeling too! I can picture you dancing Hollaback Girl hided in the bathroom!

check also the replies in the official ND forum... By the way I'm super_fisteus in the official fan forum if you want to say something! I don't hide (in bathrooms like some people)

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You have sense of fashion? Jeez... - (Anonymous), 2006-01-19 07:45 am UTC
Re: You have sense of fashion? Jeez... - [info]clairefaerie, 2006-01-19 10:12 am UTC
Re: You have sense of fashion? Jeez... - (Anonymous), 2006-02-01 08:06 am UTC
Re: You have sense of fashion? Jeez... - [info]clairefaerie, 2006-02-01 10:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]clairefaerie, 2006-01-19 10:13 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-01-19 04:56 pm UTC
I don't just dislike you, I think its hate.
(Anonymous)
2006-01-19 07:56 am UTC (link)
I don't just dislike you, I think its hate.

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I don't just dislike you, I think its hate.
(Anonymous)
2006-01-19 08:00 am UTC (link)
I don't just dislike you, I think its hate.

Die you Hater BITCH

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Re: I don't just dislike you, I think its hate. - [info]clairefaerie, 2006-01-19 10:08 am UTC
i think i despise you too - (Anonymous), 2006-01-19 08:03 am UTC
Re: i think i despise you too - [info]clairefaerie, 2006-01-19 10:09 am UTC
i think i despise you too - (Anonymous), 2006-01-19 08:03 am UTC
Re: i think i despise you too - [info]clairefaerie, 2006-01-19 10:04 am UTC
Re: I don't just dislike you, I think its hate. - [info]clairefaerie, 2006-01-19 10:04 am UTC
I am so angry with this hole thing im very very angery - (Anonymous), 2008-02-28 05:00 pm UTC
what ???
(Anonymous)
2006-01-19 12:49 pm UTC (link)
what?? Do you have anything more important to talk about! then this. As far as the the bowing to the girls, you are making it more somthing then what it is!

start writing something interesting to rant about.

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Re: what ???
[info]clairefaerie
2006-01-19 12:57 pm UTC (link)
If it's not interesting why feel the need to comment on it in the first place?

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Re: what ??? - (Anonymous), 2006-01-19 03:07 pm UTC

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